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# Group Soak
- URL: https://www.kevinmeyer.com/group-soak/
- Published: 2008-06-03T04:01:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-05-10T14:03:36.000Z
- Author: Kevin Meyer
- Tags: People & Culture, #Migrated-1752356847400, #wp, #wp-post, #Import 2025-07-12 14:48

Cultural differences can be a beautiful thing. Or maybe not... it depends on your perspective. I was chatting with one of my customers today who mentioned that she just got back from visiting a major supplier in Finland. That supplier had a large factory, perhaps 500 people. I'm going to paraphrase her description of an interaction between her and the plant manager:

> Visiting customer (VC): "Beautiful conference room. I really like glass walls."  
>  
> Finland plant manager (FPM): "Yes, we believe in openness."  
>  
> VC: "Why are all those people walking past us carrying duffle bags?"  
>  
> FPM: "I can't show you now, but I'll show you after lunch."

After lunch he takes her down the hall and into what looks like a locker room with showers directly opposite the lockers. There are no curtains or doors on the showers.

> VC: "Nice locker room. Is this the men's or women's?"  
>  
> FPM: "Both."  
>  
> VC: "OK.... so what do they use the lockers and showers for?"

The plant manager then walks the visitors through another door, and behold! There's a hot tub that could hold about 30 folks.

> VC: "Very nice! I always thought a hot tub would be a nice employee perk!"  
>  
> FPM: "Our employees really like it, which is why it was too crowded to show you earlier."  
>  
> VC: "So who decides when the men get to use the hot tub, and when the women do?"  
>  
> FPM: "We all use it together."  
>  
> VC: "So where does everyone change if there's only one locker room?"  
>  
> FPM: "Change?"  
>  
> VC: "Into swimsuits."  
>  
> FPM: "Swimsuits?"  
>  
> VC: "OK...."

By this point I was alternating between being enthralled with our cultural differences and rather unpleasant visuals of imagining my coworkers in a hot tub in their birthday suits. Maybe Finland is different, but over here factory folks are usually not exactly pinup material. Then I got to thinking about a couple of recent petty employee issues along the lines of "so and so looked at me wrong." Isn't babysitting employees a blast? But at least they weren't sharing a soak together. Or maybe such "openness" creates more acceptance, resulting in fewer petty HR issues?

Looking around at my coworkers, I think that's one management idea I won't try. Smart and creative will only get you so far. Although a few months ago I did threaten to lock two quarreling managers together in a dark closet in their Speedos until they resolved their differences. Close enough.